. >> they got shelly in nevada. >> that's unfortunate. >> they did not get what they thought they were be buying of. >> the biggest loser is carl rove -- karl rove. he would let them keep even more, a fairly bottom line decision. a lot of money was spent. ben bernanke was the second stimulus. the supreme court acted as the second stimulus, second only to the fed, because opening the door to that kind of private spending, the supreme court certainly did a lot for the economy. i look at their bottom line, it will be a disappointment. >> indiana and missouri are too easy, so i will go to minnesota. he ran the races with the chinese american actress on super bowl night. cake walk for stabenow. >> i would say joe biden. i think he's going to have a tough four years. i'll just leave it at that. on our side, i'd say that -- not continuing to learn. there was a lot of false security we had in our turn out operation. we stalled. i'd say that is a big loser. >> this has been a stimulating panel. we have a second panel that will start immediately. for those of you are c-span, www.laszlostrategies